Tuesday, September 23, 2008

Dark Avenger and the global warming hoax

The Dark Avenger has popped in wanting to argue global warming, evidently inspired by my anecdotal post regarding Durbin's snow and lowest temperature ever recorded.

Here's what Great Britains' Meterological Office had to say about this:

Anyone who thinks global warming has stopped has their head in the sand. The evidence is clear – the long-term trend in global temperatures is rising, and humans are largely responsible for this rise. Global warming does not mean that each year will be warmer than the last, natural phenomena will mean that some years will be much warmer and others cooler. You only need to look at 1998 to see a record-breaking warm year caused by a very strong El Niño. In the last couple of years, the underlying warming is partially masked caused by a strong La Niña. Despite this, 11 of the last 13 years are the warmest ever recorded.

Average global temperatures are now some 0.75 °C warmer than they were 100 years ago. Since the mid-1970s, the increase in temperature has averaged more than 0.15 °C per decade. This rate of change is very unusual in the context of past changes and much more rapid than the warming at the end of the last ice age. Sea-surface temperatures have warmed slightly less than the global average whilst temperatures over land have warmed at a faster rate of almost 0.3 °C per decade.

Over the last ten years, global temperatures have warmed more slowly than the long-term trend. But this does not mean that global warming has slowed down or even stopped. It is entirely consistent with our understanding of natural fluctuations of the climate within a trend of continued long-term warming.

These natural fluctuations include the El Niño Southern Oscillations (ENSO) in the Pacific Ocean. In El Niño years - those when cold surface water is not apparent in the tropical eastern Pacific - global temperature is considerably warmer than normal. A particularly strong El Niño occurred in 1998 resulting in the warmest year on record across the globe. In La Niña years - when cold water rises to the surface of the Pacific Ocean - temperatures can be considerably colder than normal. Volcanic eruptions can also cause temporary drops in global temperatures because of huge amounts of dust thrown high into the atmosphere that reduce the amount of sunlight that reaches the surface. A La Nina was present throughout 2007 and much of 2008; — despite this temporary cooling, 2008 is still likely to be the seventh warmest on the global record.

Got this from the NOAA website:

NOAA: U.S. Has 39th Warmest August, 22nd Warmest Summer on Record

Global Summer Temperature Was Ninth Warmest, Tenth Warmest August Since Records Began

This June—August 2008 summer season was the 22nd warmest on record for the contiguous United States, according to an analysis by NOAA's National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. Also, last month ended as the 39th warmest August for the contiguous United States, based on records dating back to 1895.

The average summer temperature, for the contiguous United States, of 72.7 degrees F is 0.8 degree F above the 20th century average, based on preliminary data. The average August temperature was 73.2 degrees F, which is 0.4 degree above average.

The combined global average land and ocean surface temperature for summer 2008 was the ninth warmest since records began in 1880, and this August was the tenth warmest.

U.S. Temperature Highlights

California had its ninth warmest summer, while New Jersey, Connecticut and Rhode Island had their 8th warmest summers.

The western United States experienced its fourth warmest August on record, with an average temperature of 75.3 degrees F, 2.9 degrees above the 20th century mean.

While temperatures in most western states were above normal in August, temperatures across much of the eastern half of the U.S. were below normal.

Cooler temperatures in the east and warmer temperatures in the western U.S. contributed to a near average national residential energy consumption for August and the summer season. Based on NOAA's Residential Energy Demand Temperature Index, temperature-related energy demand was just 3.5 percent below average in August, and 4.2 percent above average for the summer.


Meanwhile back at the ranch, this was written in 2002.

“The Earth's polar regions long have been considered canaries in the coal mine on climate change - the first places to look, many scientists said, to learn whether the planet's temperature is, in fact, rising. Indeed, climate models generally predict that the heating of the atmosphere - precipitated by global warming - will cause the vast layer of ice that covers Antarctica to melt, raising sea levels and changing regional climate patterns by altering ocean currents.
This week, that widely held presumption is being challenged.”


CSM

We now have this.

Each possible cause of global warming has a different pattern of where in the planet the warming occurs first and the most. The signature of an increased greenhouse effect is a hot spot about 10km up in the atmosphere over the tropics. We have been measuring the atmosphere for decades using radiosondes:

weather balloons with thermometers that radio back the temperature as the balloon ascends through the atmosphere. They show no hot spot. Whatsoever.

If there is no hot spot then an increased greenhouse effect is not the cause of global warming. So we know for sure that carbon emissions are not a significant cause of the global warming. If we had found the greenhouse signature then I would be an alarmist again.

Recently the alarmists have suggested we ignore the radiosonde thermometers, but instead take the radiosonde wind measurements, apply a theory about wind shear, and run the results through their computers to estimate the temperatures. They then say that the results show that we cannot rule out the presence of a hot spot. If you believe that you'd believe anything.

The satellites that measure the world's temperature all say that the warming trend ended in 2001, and that the temperature has dropped about 0.6C in the past year (to the temperature of 1980). Land-based temperature readings are corrupted by the "urban heat island" effect: urban areas encroaching on thermometer stations warm the micro-climate around the thermometer, due to vegetation changes, concrete, cars, houses. Satellite data is the only temperature data we can trust, but it only goes back to 1979. NASA reports only land-based data, and reports a modest warming trend and recent cooling. The other three global temperature records use a mix of satellite and land measurements, or satellite only, and they all show no warming since 2001 and a recent cooling.

4. The new ice cores show that in the past six global warmings over the past half a million years, the temperature rises occurred on average 800 years before the accompanying rise in atmospheric carbon. Which says something important about which was cause and which was effect.

None of these points are controversial. The alarmist scientists agree with them, though they would dispute their relevance.

The last point was known and past dispute by 2003, yet Al Gore made his movie in 2005and presented the ice cores as the sole reason for believing that carbon emissions cause global warming. In any other political context our cynical and experienced press corps would surely have called this dishonest and widely questioned the politician's assertion.

Until now the global warming debate has merely been an academic matter of little interest. Now that it matters, we should debate the causes of global warming.
So far that debate has just consisted of a simple sleight of hand: show evidence of global warming, and while the audience is stunned at the implications, simply assert that it is due to carbon emissions.

In the minds of the audience, the evidence that global warming has occurred becomes conflated with the alleged cause, and the audience hasn't noticed that the cause was merely asserted, not proved.

If there really was any evidence that carbon emissions caused global warming, don't you think we would have heard all about it ad nauseam by now?

The world has spent $50 billion on global warming since 1990, and we have not found any actual evidence that carbon emissions cause global warming. Evidence consists of observations made by someone at some time that supports the idea that carbon emissions cause global warming. Computer models and theoretical calculations are not evidence, they are just theory.



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Well, if it was warming and is now cooling, what is the cause? The sun. You know, that big old orange thing up in the sky. (Yes you readers in Seattle, it does exist.)

There is also another factor. It's called water vapor.

The following was sent by a reader named Jonas. Perhaps he will join in with some additional information.


1. Storage heaters are a better analogy than 'greenhouse' to describe such gases (Heat-Absorption-Retention-Emission) thus 'HARE' is more apposite term.

2. Only 'molecular gases' such as CO2, CH4, H2O (water vapour)have HARE capability (non-molecular ones such as oxygen and nitrogen reflect heat).

3. HARE gases only absorb heat in/from the infrared wavelength. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT AND SALIENT POINT.

4 Infrared heat/energy in the atmosphere comes from the Sun; the sum total of the energy emitted from the Earth's surface is miniscule compared to that beamed down by Sun; heat from the surface of the Earth will keep on rising until it is expended (oscillated away); the only contribution surface heat can make to the levels of HARE gases is if there is if there are any such gases given off by/in that heat.

5. HARE gases absorb [infrared] energy at differing efficiencies:carbon dioxide has a 8.5 per cent efficiency whereas water vapour's is 37.5 per cent (more than four times that of CO2).

6. Carbon dioxide presently exists in the atmosphere at a concentration of 387ppm; water vapour's is some 20,000ppm, more 50 times that of CO2.

7. The Greenhouse/HARE contribution of CO2 amount to less that half of one per cent of that of water vapour's; expressed as a 12" ruler, CO2 is about 1/16th of an inch whereas water vapour is 11 7/8".

8. Thus it won't make any noticeable difference to temperature of the atmosphere if the level of CO2 was halved, doubled or even trebled.

Confirmation of CO2's irrelevance in determining global temperatures is borne out by the fact than since 1998 - during which time the level of CO2 in the atmosphere has risen by some 18ppm - temperatures have not only declined by 1 degree C but that since 2006 the rate of this cooling has been accelerating.


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In the meantime we are enjoyin the coolness of an early fall. I find that delightful since my utility bill has been jacked by TVA to fight something, global warming, that does not exist.

7 comments:

  1. Thanks for admitting that the report is anecdotal, as you may know, anecdotal isn't the same as data, it could be characterized as a datum point, and of course, one cannot extrapolate from a datum point from one area for one point in time.

    You're talking about 2002 and Antarctica, how about more recent observations?

    A crumbling ice shelf along the West Antarctic Peninsula has become the latest polar poster child for global warming.

    This week, researchers in the United States, Britain, and Taiwan released images of long stretches of ice shearing away from the shelf. What started with the loss of a relatively thin, 26-mile-long iceberg at the end of February cascaded into the loss of 160 square miles of ice by the end of last week.

    Its erosion won't affect sea levels. Like an ice cube in a filled cup, it's already in the water. And the handful of glaciers that feed into the shelf, called the Wilkins Ice Shelf, are small. Still, researchers say, the event represents a marker. The region has seen unprecedented rates of warming during the past 50 years. Two of the 10 shelves along the peninsula have vanished within the past 30 years. Another five have lost between 60 percent and 92 percent of their original extent. Of the 10, Wilkins is the southernmost shelf in the area to start buckling under global warming's effects.

    "Wilkins is a stepping stone in a larger process," says Ted Scambos, a glaciologist at the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colo., who discovered the breakup in satellite images. "It's really a story of what's yet to come if the mainland of Antarctica begins to warm."

    So far, the shelf has lost about 3 percent of its total extent, which covers an area more than twice the size of Rhode Island and is up to 820 feet thick. But all that sits between the shelf's new seaward edge and a vast expanse of much weaker shelf ice is what researchers dub a "thread" of strong ice. And Wilkins's erosion is happening faster than researchers projected.

    "In 1993, we predicted that this was going to be a vulnerable ice shelf," says David Vaughan of the British Antarctic Survey. "But we got the time scales completely wrong. We were saying 30 years at that time, and now it's happened within 15."

    Glaciologists are concerned about Antarctica's ice shelves because most of them represent brakes of solid ice that slow the glaciers' flow to the sea. Without those brakes, the glaciers would surge, calve into icebergs, and significantly raise the sea level.

    The region of greatest concern is West Antarctica, which includes the peninsula. Using satellites, scientists have been tracking snowfall, ice loss, and changes in the region's gravity field to gauge the amount of mass the continent's two large ice sheets are gaining or losing. The West Antarctic Ice Sheet is separated from its eastern sibling by a long chain of mountains, so gains or no change in mass for the continent as a whole may still mask significant changes on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet.

    Recent studies have added to a growing body of evidence that key glaciers flowing from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet are thinning at rates not seen since the last ice age. For instance, for the past 4,700 years, the Pine Island Glacier has thinned at a rate of about 1-1/2 inches a year, according to a team of scientists from Britain and Germany. That rate is similar to those of other major glaciers in the region. But between 1992 and 1996, Pine Island Glacier thinned at an average rate of 63 inches a year. Their results appear in the March edition of the journal Geology.


    and

    Sept. 16 (Bloomberg) -- The shrinking of Arctic sea ice to its second-smallest size on record signals greater changes in the Earth's climate as it opens previously frozen shipping routes.

    The polar ice, which melts from March to September each year and expands again as winter approaches, was only smaller in 2007, according to satellite data collected since 1979 and released today by the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center. The trend of reduced ice dates to even before 1979, according to measurements from aircraft and ships.

    ``We certainly haven't seen conditions like this for hundreds of years,'' said Walt Meier, a scientist at the Boulder, Colorado- based center who blames the retreat largely on emissions of greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide. Receding ice is ``the most visible and largest indicator of climate change that we see.''

    Reduced ice poses a risk to the northern region's indigenous people and wildlife and has repercussions for global climate. It's also opened new shipping channels between Canada and Siberia and is easing access to natural resources such as oil and gas under the seabed.

    The NSIDC figures are released annually at the lowest level the sea ice reaches before cooling resumes. This year's lowest point was Sept. 12, when 4.52 million square kilometers (1.74 million square miles) of the Arctic Ocean was covered by sea ice. That compares with last year's record low of 4.13 million square kilometers and the average low for 1979 to 2000 of 6.74 million square kilometers.

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  2. Repeating tired old claims is your speciality. I note that you don't address any of the facts regarding the lack of the "hot spot." And without a hot spot you can't tie GW to carbon and without that there is no reason to surrender to the UN and the bureaucrats.

    Not to mention people like Pope Algore who are getting rich selling carbon "credits." (What a stupid concept.)

    You know DA, all I see are claims and estimates and models.

    As the post shows when the numbers didn't support the hoaxers they wanted to use estimates and models.

    How stupid of them is the best I can say. How dishonest of them is more to the point.

    Has there been global warming? Of course. That isn't the issue, as you well know. The issue is.... is it caused by man and who shall control us...

    The sun has entered a period of reduced sunspots and energy output. We see that in the lowering of global temperatures.. and that lowering leads to the anecdotal temps we laugh about because they are the canary in the "GW caused by carbon" mine.

    And of course in all of this the role of water vapor is ignored...

    "Confirmation of CO2's irrelevance in determining global temperatures is borne out by the fact than since 1998 - during which time the level of CO2 in the atmosphere has risen by some 18ppm - temperatures have not only declined by 1 degree C but that since 2006 the rate of this cooling has been accelerating."

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  3. Repeating tired old claims is your speciality.

    No need to be envious, you do plenty of repeating tired old claims more than I ever would(of course, anything greater than 0 is greater, but you knew that already.

    I note that you don't address any of the facts regarding the lack of the "hot spot".

    You know DA, all I see are claims and estimates and models.

    I didn't realize that I had to respond to all your points, while you get to ignore the FACTS
    that I've presented about the Arctic sea ice and the decrease in the Western Antarctic Ice sheet.

    That you choose not to see the facts I've cited isn't a point against me, btw.

    As for the hotspot, I found this:

    1 The greenhouse signature is missing. We have been looking and measuring for years, and cannot find it.

    Each possible cause of global warming has a different pattern of where in the planet the warming occurs first and the most. The signature of an increased greenhouse effect is a hot spot about 10km up in the atmosphere over the tropics.

    This couldn't be more wrong. Study the graphs below (from RealClimate). The left one shows the pattern predicted for doubling CO2, while the right one shows the pattern for a 2% increase in solar output.

    Both patterns include a hot spot. The difference between the two graphs is that the CO2 one shows cooling in the stratosphere, while the right one does not, so the "greenhouse signature" is stratospheric cooling. And guess what, that's what's been happening. Evans continues

    2 There is no evidence to support the idea that carbon emissions cause significant global warming. None. There is plenty of evidence that global warming has occurred, and theory suggests that carbon emissions should raise temperatures (though by how much is hotly disputed) but there are no observations by anyone that implicate carbon emissions as a significant cause of the recent global warming.

    This is pure denial. There is plenty of evidence and denying that it exists does not make it disappear. For instance, Figure 4 of the SPM. The blue bands show temperature changes modelled using bonly natural forcings, while the red bands include anthropogenic forcings as well. The black line shows observations. Clearly, we must include anthropogenic forcings if we want to match the observations.

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    As the post shows when the numbers didn't support the hoaxers they wanted to use estimates and models.

    The observations that I referred are neither estimates or models.

    Is that why you fail to address them in your response?

    That you don't want to discuss them reminds me of the old line, "Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes."

    As for the 'rate of cooling''

    3 The satellites that measure the world's temperature all say that the warming trend ended in 2001, and that the temperature has dropped about 0.6C in the past year (to the temperature of 1980).

    Let's look at the lower troposphere trends from RSS:

    Figure 7. Global, monthly time series of brightness temperature anomaly for channels TLT, TMT, TTS, and TLS. For Channel TLT (Lower Troposphere) and Channel TMT (Middle Troposphere), the anomaly time series is dominated by ENSO events and slow tropospheric warming.

    The people who publish the data don't think that the warming trend ended in 2001, and if you look at the graph, it's only significantly deviated from the long term warming trend in 2008. Such short-term deviations have happened in the past without affecting the long term trend.


    And of course in all of this the role of water vapor is ignored...

    I posted this once, so I suppose I'll have to do so again:

    One of the most pronounced feedback effects relates to the evaporation of water. Warming by the addition of long-lived greenhouse gases such as CO2 will cause more water to evaporate into the atmosphere. Since water vapor is a greenhouse gas, the atmosphere warms further; this warming causes more water vapor to evaporate (a positive feedback), and so on until other processes stop the feedback loop. The result is a much larger greenhouse effect than that due to CO2 alone. Although this feedback process causes an increase in the absolute moisture content of the air, the relative humidity stays nearly constant or even decreases slightly because the air is warmer.[35] This feedback effect can only be reversed slowly as CO2 has a long average atmospheric lifetime.

    Facts be facts, PPJ, and that you use the strawmen of claims and models without explaining how the facts I cited fit into a model of 'global cooling' tells us all we need to know about your expertise at repeating 'tired old claims'.

    TTFN

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  4. "This couldn't be more wrong. Study the graphs below (from RealClimate). The left one shows the pattern predicted for doubling CO2, while the right one shows the pattern for a 2% increase in solar output."

    Come back when your "proof" doesn't use phrases like "the pattern predicted..."

    And read this..

    http://tallcotton-ppjakajim.blogspot.com/2008/09/michael-crichton.html

    tata

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  5. If you followed the link, you'd have found this:

    Actually we have found the greenhouse signature, so Evans should change his mind. I'm not holding my breath.

    If the hot spot really is missing it does not prove that CO2 is not causing warming, but it would indicate something wrong with the models. (Which might mean that things are worse than what the models predict.) However, the radiosonde measurements have been found to be wrong in the past, and it looks like they may well be wrong again.

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    Update: As luck would have it, a commentary from Peter Thorne and a paper from Allen and Sherwood have just come out in Nature Geoscience. In it they extend the idea mentioned above of using wind shear as a check on the temperature trends and come up with a another new estimate of the changes. This estimate is again much closer to the moist adiabat and the climate models. The figure in Thorne's piece is quite revealing and underlines the points made above:

    He concludes: "The new analysis adds to the growing body of evidence suggesting that these discrepancies are most likely the result of inaccuracies in the observed temperature record rather than fundamental model errors."

    Indeed.

    As for Crichton, the essay you quoted as such length doesn't deal with the observations I cited for both Arctic and Antarctic ice made this year, but then you don't like to address the facts, just perceived weaknesses which as I've just demonstrated aren't as simple-minded as you like to make them out to be.

    You've one more chance to explain away the observations I've cited in my first post here(which again, were neither derived from models or claims or estimates) or

    "And it's one, two three strikes
    and you're out
    at the old ball game."

    Heh.

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  6. Again....

    This estimate is again much closer to the moist adiabat and the climate models. The figure in Thorne's piece is quite revealing and underlines the points made above:

    He concludes: "The new analysis adds to the growing body of evidence suggesting that these discrepancies are most likely the result of inaccuracies in the observed temperature record rather than fundamental model errors."

    The above from your comment..

    "estimate....suggesting..."

    That is called "guessing."

    And from the link I gave you..

    This couldn't be more wrong. Study the graphs below (from RealClimate). The left one shows the pattern predicted for doubling CO2, while the right one shows the pattern for a 2% increase in solar output.


    Like that one? Here's another.


    However, the radiosonde measurements have been found to be wrong in the past, and it looks like they may well be wrong again.


    And this one is subtle.


    This is pure denial. There is plenty of evidence and denying that it exists does not make it disappear. For instance, Figure 4 of the SPM. The blue bands show temperature changes modelled using only natural forcings, while the red bands include anthropogenic forcings as well. The black line shows observations. Clearly, we must include anthropogenic forcings if we want to match the observations


    Modelled? Oh, btw - did I tell you that "anthropogenic forcings" (man made changes) is also based on a "model?" Here we have a model of a model of a model.

    Then we have:


    The land-based temperature readings are corrected for UHI, while the satellite readings have been found to be wrong in the past.


    The question is, of course, is the correction correct?

    So we have "predictions," "looks like," "modelled and models" and "corrected."

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    To repeat myself:

    If you don't know the values of what goes into the equation then what you have is a guess. An educated guess perhaps, but a guess.

    Any questions as to why I say man made global warming is a hoax?

    Now. This thread is closed. Further comments will be deleted.

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