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Wednesday, June 17, 2009

Factual health care information....NOT

An anon commentator used this link in his health care comments. I thought maybe a few questions would be helpful....

Why doesn’t the United States have universal health care as a right of citizenship?

The United States is the only industrialized nation that does not guarantee access to health care as a right of citizenship. 28 industrialized nations have single payer universal health care systems, while 1 (Germany) has a multipayer universal health care system like President Clinton proposed for the United States.


Why did I know he would choose the one from Germany??




Myth One: The United States has the best health care system in the world.

Fact One: The United States ranks 23rd in infant mortality, down from 12th in 1960 and 21st in 1990.

(Why are they using 39 year old figures? And did anyone look at the survival rate to adulthood?)

Fact Two: The United States ranks 20th in life expectancy for women down from 1st in 1945 and 13th in 1960.

(Why are they quoting 39 year old figures??)

Fact Three: The United States ranks 21st in life expectancy for men down from 1st in 1945 and 17th in 1960.

(Why are they quoting 39 year old figures?)

(I wonder. Since people die as they get old, and since our population is aging, do you think that might have something to do with it?)



Fact Four: The United States ranks between 50th and 100th in immunizations depending on the immunization. Overall US is 67th, right behind Botswana

(Maybe if we quit paying attention to the fruit cakes claiming imminizations harm children......)

Fact Five: Outcome studies on a variety of diseases, such as coronary artery disease, and renal failure show the United States to rank below Canada and a wide variety of industrialized nations.

(Outcome of what??? And was diet considered??)


And then....

Conclusion: Single payer universal health care costs would be lower than the current US system due to lower administrative costs. The United States spends 50 to 100% more on administration than single payer systems. By lowering these administrative costs the United States would have the ability to provide universal health care, without managed care, increase benefits and still save money


Why would it cost the government any less to process a claim than it does the private companies??

Conclusion: The US denies access to health care based on the ability to pay. Under a universal health care system all would access care. There would be no lines as in other industrialized countries due to the oversupply in our providers and infrastructure, and the willingness/ability of the United States to spend more on health care than other industrialized nations


Then all these stories we are hearing about people dying while waiting for heart surgery are lies??

As for over supply, where do you think that $400 million Obamie's plan is supposed to save comes from?

And then.....


Conclusion: Single payer, universal health care administered by a state public health system would be much more democratic and much less intrusive than our current system. Consumers and providers would have a voice in determining benefits, rates and taxes. Problems with free choice, confidentiality and medical decision making would be resolved


Now, where do they get this nonsense????



What you can do about this through your state Green Party.....


Way to go ANON! I'll put you on my never believe list!

Health care

Everyone keeps telling me that we have the best health care system in the world... and the most expensive...

Anyone see a connection there??

So if Obama is going to reduce costs, how does he do it??

There is only one way to reduce cost. And that is to reduce care. If that is what you want, then you should be happy.

But no one wants that. What they want is health care paid for by someone else. I keep on saying that we have all the elements in place for the worlds greatest National Health Care.

First, we have the administrative system in place. Medicare. And the delivery system knows how to deal with it.

Secondly, we have the delivery system in place. Our Hospitals, Clinics and professionals are the greatest in the world.

Thirdly, all we need is how to pay for it. I say a national sales tax, collected at the POS. That way we all use it, we all pay for it. Drug dealers, illegal aliens, doctors, lawyers...Indian chiefs... poor man.. beggar man...rich man... thief...

But that won't fly because it doesn't favor Obamie's minions. It isn't free. And it doesn't create a new level of bureaucrats to ration care, which is what the Left wants. Even worse, everyone can see what they are paying and even much worse, the insurance companies are included out...

So stand by. You think what we have now is bad, just wait until you have to call your local ward heeler to get a Doctor's appointment...