Tuesday, September 20, 2011

Obama, do we know him???

The following comes from an old friend, Larry P. I'm not sure where he got it, but my guess is that at least some of it originally came from a commentator in UrbanSurvival.

Parts supplied by Larry are quoted. My comments are in bold.

It was brought to light that back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can this 'birth certificate' state he is
'African-American' when the term wasn't even used back then??

Here is a comment from a reader to George Ure at UrbanSurvival.

"As you all know, Donald Trump made a big deal about Obama's birth

I will tell you right now that I had never given this "birther" issue any credit. I watched the hype and the crazies come out. I completely dismissed the entire ordeal altogether.

In fact, it was not until the White House released the birth certificate
that it had gained my attention. I am the studious sort of guy, and I have plenty of time on my hands. So, I took a close look at this document.

While I would have thought that this issue would have been closed for good (and, got the crazies to crawl back into their holes), I found two extremely strange inconsistencies that merit some attention.

First of all, the birth certificate that the White House released lists
Obama's birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as
his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also
shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was
born in " Kenya , East Africa ".

This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist?

Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East
Africa Protectorate". But, this is not the only thing that I found that
just does not jive.

Pre and Post-colonial history of Kenya

Wiki Link

Wiki Link

From the Wiki link: European and Arab presence in Mombasa dates to the Early Modern period, but European exploration of the interior began only in the 19th century. The British Empire established the East Africa Protectorate in 1895, from 1920 known as the Kenya Colony.

The other item that I looked into was the hospital that Obama was born in. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital".

This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "Kaui Keolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home",

From the link: This is the story of two hospitals: Kauikeolani Children's Hospital and Kapi‘olani Maternity Home

The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?

From the link: The two hospitals joined in 1978 to become Kapi‘olani Medical Center for Women & Children

Go ahead, look it up. I am not talking crazy talk, these are the facts.
Like I said, I thought that this was a non-issue until the actual certificate was released. Now that it has been released, of course I had
to look into it. I have found these issues, now I know that something is
up. If you doubt me, just look at the following resources:

Sure as hell, the hospital part is true, as you can read about the 1978
merger here.


Now its not my job to vet Obama's birth certificate or analyze/refute claims that it is not true. But sometimes I think we over respond.

First, as the Wikipedia link shows, Kenya Colony was established in 1920 and known as that forward.

The link to the hospital link shows the pre 1978 merger name as Kapi‘olani Maternity Home. The birth certificate calls it “Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital.” The disparity between the two could be questioned, but since what we have is a Home Page produced (probably) 30 years after the merger I would guess that the name used in conversation was Kapi‘olani Maternity Home. The bureaucrat/nurse filling out the birth certificate used the legal name which was also the surviving name in the merger.

That’s not unusual. People routinely condense lengthy names.

The “Negroes” vs African-American is also interesting, but given that the father was an African national and the mother American I see the use of “African-American” in 1961 as not unusual. Especially in Hawaii due to the very high mixing of races. Chinese-American, Japanese-American. And I really have no reason to think that a mixed race child wouldn’t be identified that way.

So I see no smoking gun.

What I do see is this. Twenty four hours after Joe the Plumber had his short discussion with Obama the press had investigated him and we knew more about Joe from that 24 hour investigation than we know about Obama after 7 years.

That tells us this about the press. Obama, as a black person, was the perfect candidate for them. The press, being mostly liberal/left to the core see Obama existing only to allow them to atone for what they see as the sins of America by supporting him.

Now if they admit this he becomes a person. And a person can have failures. Strengths and weaknesses. And in a way the media's failure to vet him..... their failure to see him as a person is identical to how the Jim Crow racists of the South and around the world see blacks. They don't see blacks as "people." They see them as a group.

And if they had vetted Obama they would have discovered some bad things and some good things. And they would have had to decide if this Obama person was, on the whole, good or bad. Or at the least, made sure the country knew where he came from, what he had done, who he had associated with, what his views were.

But they did not. They failed themselves. They failed the country.

A sad saying about a group that is mentioned in the Constitution.

But we now know him. His actions speak.

And he will be a one term President.

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