Katana trolls

something is despicable, all right... (5.00 / 1) (#188)
by katana on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 08:48:36 AM CST

In what alternate universe? Republican Party Island?

jimakaPPJ's alternate universe is called Tall Cotton, and it's not so much a Republican Party Island as a virulent, reactionary atoll. I'm surprised its identifying graphics don't include a sheet with eye-holes and a coiled noose.

Tall Cotton not only loves Senator McCain, he loves torture. He hates John Kerry, and Democrats, and academics, and, especially, Muslims; and he believes that Senator Obama's reach-out to the devout community is a secret scheme to get federal money for madrassas (and no, I'm not kidding).

I should add that on his own website, jimakaPPJ refers to Obama exclusively as Hussein.

On his own site, he portrays himself as nothing other than a good ol' American patriot, filled only with good 'ol common sense and a passionate love for his country and an even more passionate hatred of its enemies. Lots and lots of hatred, especially for Muslims and--unless I misread him--those even a teeny little bit darker than he.

Around here, he pretends to be merely an enemy of liberals and liberal values; nothing more alarming. Don't be misled. It's only his fear of being chased that prevents him from showing his true colors.

I was going to reply to this little trollish and inaccurate attack over at TalkLeft
but the comments were cut off. Perhaps katana will decide to see if I had a reply.

So here goes...

I am what I am. I call myself a social liberal because I believe in the things that the Democratic party did at one time. That would be minority rights, gay rights, a woman's right to chose, etc..... I have commented at Talk Left for over 5 years, and if Katana will contribute $20. to Jeralyn for my efforts I will link to some of them for her. (? gender)

I have posted there and here for gay marriage and national health care.

But I also believe in a strong national defense. Think Scoop Jackson, Harry Truman, Paul Douglas. The Democratic Party left me in 1968, but I was stupid enough to give it a second chance in 1976. Yes children, I voted for Carter. Please forgive me.

I happen to believe that we are engaged in WWIV and that we are being attacked on many fronts.

And yes, I do not think waterboarding is torture. And should be used when necessary.

And yes, I refer to Hussein as Hussein because that is his middle name. And I wouldn't have started calling him that had he not have told us what we should call him. Fainting females aside to me he is just another Chicago politician with enough problems hanging on him that I don't see how a rational person could possibly vote for him.

If that makes me evil, so be it.

The problem Katana has is that she (?) thinks she is a liberal when she is just another Leftie.

As for Katana's snarky reference to the KKK and her other uninformed and inaccurate personal attacks, I can only note that no other than a well known liberal, Lanny Davis, had this to say about the Left's method of doing business.

From the WSJ.

WASHINGTON--My brief and unhappy experience with the hate and vitriol of bloggers on the liberal side of the aisle comes from the last several months I spent campaigning for a longtime friend, Joe Lieberman.

This kind of scary hatred, my dad used to tell me, comes only from the right wing--in his day from people such as the late Sen. Joseph McCarthy, with his tirades against "communists and their fellow travelers." The word "McCarthyism" became a red flag for liberals, signifying the far right's fascistic tactics of labeling anyone a "communist" or "socialist" who favored an active federal government to help the middle class and the poor, and to level the playing field.

I came to believe that we liberals couldn't possibly be so intolerant and hateful, because our ideology was famous for ACLU-type commitments to free speech, dissent and, especially, tolerance for those who differed with us. And in recent years--with the deadly combination of sanctimony and vitriol displayed by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Michael Savage--I held on to the view that the left was inherently more tolerant and less hateful than the right.

Now, in the closing days of the Lieberman primary campaign, I have reluctantly concluded that I was wrong. The far right does not have a monopoly on bigotry and hatred and sanctimony. Here are just a few examples (there are many, many more anyone with a search engine can find) of the type of thing the liberal blog sites have been posting about Joe Lieberman:
• "Ned Lamont and his supporters need to [g]et real busy. Ned needs to beat Lieberman to a pulp in the debate and define what it means to be an AMerican who is NOT beholden to the Israeli Lobby" (by "rim," posted on Huffington Post, July 6, 2006).

• "Joe's on the Senate floor now and he's growing a beard. He has about a weeks growth on his face. . . . I hope he dyes his beard Blood red. It would be so appropriate" (by "ctkeith," posted on Daily Kos, July 11 and 12, 2005).

• On "Lieberman vs. Murtha": "as everybody knows, jews ONLY care about the welfare of other jews; thanks ever so much for reminding everyone of this most salient fact, so that we might better ignore all that jewish propaganda [by Lieberman] about participating in the civil rights movement of the 60s and so on" (by "tomjones," posted on Daily Kos, Dec. 7, 2005).

• "Good men, Daniel Webster and Faust would attest, sell their souls to the Devil. Is selling your soul to a god any worse? Leiberman cannot escape the religious bond he represents. Hell, his wife's name is Haggadah or Muffeletta or Diaspora or something you eat at Passover" (by "gerrylong," posted on the Huffington Post, July 8, 2006).

• "Joe Lieberman is a racist and a religious bigot" (by "greenskeeper," posted on Daily Kos, Dec. 7, 2005).

And these are some of the nicer examples.

One Sunday morning on C-Span I debated Nation editor Katrina vanden Heuvel on the Lieberman versus Lamont race. Afterwards I received a series of emails--many of them in ALL CAPS (which often suggests the hyper-frenetic state of these extremist haters)--that were of the same stripe as the blog posts, and filled with the same level of personal hate.

But the issue is not just emotional outbursts by these usually anonymous bloggers. A friend of mine just returned from Connecticut, where he had spoken on several occasions on behalf of Joe Lieberman. He happens to be a liberal antiwar Democrat, just as I am. He is also a lawyer. He told me that within a day of a Lamont event--where he asked the candidate some critical questions--some of his clients were blitzed with emails attacking him and threatening boycotts of their products if they did not drop him as their attorney. He has actually decided not to return to Connecticut for the primary today; he is fearful for his physical safety.

So troll on Katana. But if you have an ounce of civility you will read the blog and apologize for your outrageous remarks.

Not that I expect you to. It is not a Leftie thing to do.