Thursday, October 28, 2010

Obamacare and Dhimmitude

One of my buds sent me the following. Kind of interesting

Remember when the moron speaker of the house, Nancy Pelosi, made that incredibly stupid statement, "we have to pass the healthcare bill in order to see what's in it"? Well, here is just another little tidbit of what is actually in it!!


What does it mean? Obama used it in the health care bill. Now, isn't this interesting? It was used in the health care law. Every day there's another revelation of what Obama and his fellow Democrats are doing to our country.

Dhimmitude -- I had never heard the word until now. Type it into Google and start reading. Pretty interesting. It's on page 107 of the healthcare bill. I looked this up on Google and yep, it exists. It is a REAL word. Amish and others are excluded, including Muslims. I think I could become Amish a whole lot easier than Muslim.

Word of the Day: Dhimmitude

Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam.

Obama Care allows the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States. Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be "gambling", "risk-taking", and "usury" and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this.

How convenient. So I, as a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de facto government insurance. Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. Period.

This is Dhimmitude

Hat tip to Don H.

This edit is for Saxson... for some reason the comment reply doesn't work.

Since we posted our article, we’ve obtained a list through the Freedom of Information Act of all the groups that have successfully applied for exemptions from payroll taxes. (We have posted the Excel file here.) The overwhelming majority of them are explicitly Anabaptist — that is, Mennonite, Amish or Hutterite. Those that don’t specify their denomination are still explicitly Christian. Having gone through the list, we can say with certainty that no Muslim group, and indeed no non-Christian group, has ever qualified for an exemption under the statute used to define exempt religious groups in the health care law.

Nor are they likely to want to, says Ibrahim Hooper of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, which opposes discrimination and defamation against Muslims.

That is called a qualifier phrase. What that means is they can change their minds.

Now. One other thing.

If you want to debate, keep it civil. The next time you write "deal with it" or somegthing similar I will delete the comment.

Acting like an adult may be hard, but here it is a requirement.

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  1. Okay, here it is:

    # Are Muslims "specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured," as claimed in the message?

    No. There is no provision specifically exempting Muslims from mandated health insurance in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010. Neither the word "Muslim" nor the word "Islam" appears anywhere in the bill (nor, for those who keep asking, does the word "Dhimmitude").
    # Are any religious groups exempted from the mandate?

    Yes, a paragraph on page 107 of the legislation provides for individual religious exemptions, though the language is non-specific with regard to particular faiths:

    (5) EXEMPTIONS FROM INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.—In the case of an individual who is seeking an exemption certificate under section 1311(d)(4)(H) from any requirement or penalty imposed by section 5000A, the following information [is required]:

    (A) In the case of an individual seeking exemption based on the individual's status as a member of an exempt religious sect or division, as a member of a health care sharing ministry, as an Indian, or as an individual eligible for a hardship exemption, such information as the Secretary shall prescribe.

    Similarly, on page 128:

    "(A) RELIGIOUS CONSCIENCE EXEMPTION.—Such term [i.e., "applicable individual"] shall not include any individual for any month if such individual has in effect an exemption under section 1311(d)(4)(H) of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act which certifies that such individual is a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof described in section 1402(g)(1) and an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division as described in such section.

    Deal with it.

  2. Sorry, but your reply is unresponsive and not in keeping with the known facts in this case.

    Whether Muslims would qualify for an exemption from the health insurance requirements is more difficult to define, as Islam is a much larger religion with practices that vary according to sect and region. Although Islam does have a tradition of barring conventional insurance products because they "involve an element of uncertainty, gambling and the charging of interest, which are prohibited by the Koran," some Muslim groups make exceptions for insurance which is required by law (such as automobile insurance, and some Muslim groups do not have objections to medical insurance. Most likely, though, Muslims would not qualify for an exemption from U.S. health insurance requirements because U.S. Muslims do not have a tradition of spurning Social Security (which is viewed more as a form of caring for those who are unable to meet their own needs than as something which involves elements of uncertainty, gambling, and interest payments), and no Muslim group has ever qualified for an exemption under the guidelines which define which religious groups would be exempt from the health care law.

    The bottom line is that the health insurance mandate provision of PPACA doesn't kick in until the year 2014, and between then and now many challenges will likely be launched regarding who might be exempt from it.


  3. Maybe and could and might...

    Your whole response is full of weazle words.

    My point is that Muslims will reject having to buy insurance or pay the "fine" "tax."

    And the Feds will do nothing.