I would say NW 253 had a radical Muslim terrorist on board.
The other two just had Muslim men on board who were removed for not following instructions from the flight attendants.
Nothing unusual about that. Happens all the time. Small groups of men get up while the aircraft is moving, ignore the flight attendants, try and swap seats and move carry on luggage around. Yep, happens every day. Saw it hundreds of times during the almost three million miles I have flown on commercial flights. Yes sir. No doubt.
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I have seen people get up just while the plane is almost at the arrival gate despite the flight crew's warning to stay seated in case of sudden stops. The most memorable was a lady who jumped up and tried to open the overhead luggage bin and when the pilot hit the brakes staggered forward and sideways, falling into and between the seats managing to get both legs almost vertical for quite a time. Not content to only displaying her undies she also displayed her lack of common sense when she jumped on the flight attendants for somehow causing her to fall.
I have seen a few cases in which a single passenger decided they needed to either get something down or put something up in the overhead bins.
But never 11, which was AirTran 297 and never 7, which was UAL 227.
Oh, you haven't heard of UAL 227? That might be because it got almost zero play in the media. But it did happen.
It happened again on Wednesday, December 9, 2009, less than a month after the incident aboard AirTran Flight 297.
United Airlines Flight 227, scheduled to depart Denver International Airport at 1:50 pm Wednesday for Los Angeles was disrupted when several passengers who were described as Middle Eastern in appearance, confirmed by this investigator to be a group of Muslims traveling together, were removed from that aircraft due to suspicious behavior that originated in the terminal and continued to the airplane. Their behavior was consistent in some respects to the behavior of the Muslim passengers aboard AirTran Flight 297 on November 17, 2009 that caused a flurry of controversy over its legitimacy, and the now infamous case of the “Flying Imams” of 2006.
According to information obtained by this investigator, seven men of Middle Eastern appearance, boarded flight 227. Two took their seats in coach, while five took their seats in the first class section of the plane. At a critical pre-flight point, the individuals appeared to act in concert with one another, changing seats and moving stowed luggage to very specific areas of the aircraft, often having to move the stowed bags of other passengers to do so. They disobeyed or otherwise ignored the admonitions of the flight attendants to remain seated.
Their behavior was so overt and so apparently choreographed, according to our sources, that the flight crew demanded the passengers be removed from the aircraft. One report found on 9News in Denver quoted John Sloan, a passenger aboard that flight:
“I have never seen flight attendants so scared in my life. Everything turned out OK, but it was not a very good feeling..”
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Now, are the two disturbances connected to NW 253? No.
Are the two disturbances connected to each other? I don't know. In both cases there was little Lame Stream Media coverage at the time of the events and no follow up.
What I do know is that this shouldn't be tolerated. If the descriptions of the events on AirTran 297 and UAL 227 are accurate it appears that federal laws were broken.
I have to wonder why nothing was done.
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