Tuesday, September 30, 2008

Norway justifies surrender




I still regard Europe as a prime indicator of what will happen here unless we see some drastic changes. You may find this instructive of the mind set in Europe.

Just speaking about immigrants becoming a majority in Europe is difficult since the terms often used are charged or unclear. But that record immigration and falling birthrate in Europe can make Muslims a majority is something we can speak about, thinks senior researcher at the University of Oslo Jon Rogstad.

"I don't think it's unthinkable that Muslims will be a majority," says Jon Rogstad. He's a sociologist and he has researched immigration since the 1990s. "But I don't want to say that this is the question, but rather how we can avoid conflicts between religions or groups of people who use religion to create conflicts."


Note the calm acceptance and the automatic that there are two groups, each of which wants trouble.

"Also Muslims have an interest in having an harmonic society with calm and predictability, but then there's a little group of Muslims and a little group of Christians or other groups who are want to make trouble.


Here we find that we have a "little group" of Muslims and a "little group of Christians" that want trouble. Really? well, the Muslim group is well known and their actions plain to see.. But who are these "Christians?" Have I missed something in the past years??

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"There is extensive immigration to Europe today. It's higher than ever," says professor Grete Brochmann at the University of Oslo. She has published a series of books on immigration and agrees with some hesitation to call it a migration of nations.

"I think such terms can be used. It's not a given what it can be used for, since it's not true that there are hordes in motion but individuals who come."


I am unsure of why Professor Brochmann says that a "migration of nations" is happening but then backs off to use the word "individuals." Of course individuals are coming. It is just that they are coming in such numbers that they are "hordes."

In addition to Eurostat's data, immigrants come to the 31 other countries the UN defines as Europe and a small but meaningful number of illegal immigrant who have never been registered. AT the same time, ethnic Europeans give birth to so few children that the population will be halved in two generations."

"I don't think we will see Muslims become a majority," says Grete Brochmann.


Ethnic Europeans are having so few children that their population will be halved in two generations... 25 to 60 years for them but 36 to 40 for the immigrants.

But he saves the best for last.

Will it cause anything if Muslims will be a majority?"

"It depends on what consequences it will for for our society."

"I very much support a liberal social system and maintaining a welfare society. Muslims or not, I don't think it's important. If people who come agree with then it's fine and if not and they are in a majority then it's I who will lose."


Note the calm acceptance of losing a culture that has taken 2000 years of sacrifice and struggle and produced the greatest culture known to man to a group of people whose only qualification of running things is a demonstrated ability to out breed the West.

Norway birthed this man, Norway educated this man. If he is an example, Norway is doomed, along with Western Europe and the west. Why do I say this?? Because of what bin Ladin told Peter Arnett, then of CNN, in March 1997.

REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, will the end of the United States' presence in Saudi Arabia, their withdrawal, will that end your call for jihad against the United States and against the US ?

BIN LADIN: So, the driving-away jihad against the US does not stop with its withdrawal from the Arabian peninsula, but rather it must desist from aggressive intervention against Muslims in the whole world.


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